Carnival Cruise Last June I went on a Carnival Cruise last June. I believe it was actually the Carnival Conquest. There were two standard blackjack tables; 1 $5 min. And the other $10 min. 8D, S17, DAS, DA2. But all casinos — both on land and on cruise ships — adjust those rules to put the advantage in their favor. The most common rule change you’ll see is blackjack paying 6-to-5 instead of the more usual 3-to-2. If that doesn’t sounds like a big deal, consider that a $10 bet would pay $12 on blackjack instead of $15 under the typical rules. They are cruise ship employees so they are trained to be extremely customer friendly and helpful. The tables were so much fun and they at least paid 3-2 for a blackjack (despite the fact that there is nowhere else to go to play on a ship) and could probably only offer that crummy 6-5 payout on blackjacks like so many of the Las Vegas casinos.
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- But all casinos — both on land and on cruise ships — adjust those rules to put the advantage in their favor. The most common rule change you’ll see is blackjack paying 6-to-5 instead of the more usual 3-to-2. If that doesn’t sounds like a big deal, consider that a $10 bet would pay $12 on blackjack instead of $15 under the typical rules.
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I'll go in order of Table Games and followed by Slots.
BLACKJACK
3 types of Blackjack Tables were on the cruise.
Type 1:
$6 min / $500 max
Continuous Shuffler
6:5 payout on BJ
Dealer Hits on Soft 17
No Surrender
No Even Money
Prop Bets were 'Lucky Ladies' $1-$10 max
Lucky Ladies were the same on all tables.
QH + QH = 1000x payout
Any suited pair that adds up to 20 = 19x payout
K or Q + 10 = 4x payout
Any A + 9 combo = 4x payout
Type 2:
$25 min / $1000 max
Continuous Shuffler
6:5 payout on BJ
Dealer Hits on Soft 17
Surrender allowed on opening hand
Even Money accepted
Lucky Ladies prop bets
Type 3:
Fun 21 (similar to Spanish 21)
$6 min / $500 max
6-deck shoe
3:2 payout on BJ
1:1 payout on 21
No Kings in the deck
Double allowed anytime
Surrender allowed on open hand and after doubling
Lucky Ladies prop bets.
Blackjack Summary
The only table I won at was fun 21, and not much at all. I stayed away from the other tables because everything was stacked against the player. I was a bit disappointed that Princess modified their rules to provide an extremely negative player experience. Not a lot of the rules were posted and at times it just felt like they were making up the rules during play.
Dealers pulled winning bets a lot and cards had to be unfolded to prove wins. Most of the dealers were from South Africa on the ship because the name tags showed Country of origin.
Overall return on BJ was (-$700 in the red)
CRAPS TABLE
$5 min table with 2x Odds
No Hops / No Fire Bets / plain vanilla
Micro Fiber table
You are allowed to increase the passline and odds on the passline anytime after the point was set.
Summary
The craps table was by far the best table on the ship and they only had one open from 8-9pm on to 2 or 3 am in the morning.
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With the passline increases allowed at anytime, I started with $5 and after the point was set determined increases. I found this very advantageous. 4 or 10 I'd leave the $5. 5 or 9 I'd increase to $10/$20. 6 or 8 I'd increase to $30/$60.
The best night was when a bunch of drunk hot girls showed up and the table had 5 hot rollers in a row. I cleared $1,600 and was very entertained for 3 hours.
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Other nights were hit and miss because the same people showed up that weren't rolling well and so I had to figure out when to DP/DC.Overall on Craps I ended up +$300 for the week.
OTHER TABLES
Let it Ride
3-Card Poker
Roulette
Video Poker table - 12 seats. Didn't play. Sorry.
SLOT MACHINES
They had a lot of bonus game play slots and 4 video poker machines.
The slots were loose in the daytime and tight at night.
Credits were generally 1/2/3/5/10 with amounts equaling $.30/$.60/$.90/$1.50/$3.00.
Playing on 2 and 3 produced a lot more wins. This was ascertained from just talking with others. Playing max produced empty pockets.
On bonus slots playing faster produced more bonuses.
The bigger winning machines were actually located right in the front of the casino by the entrance.
Summary
My mom won $480 over the trip. My brother won about $170. I lost about $200. My wife came out about even. My Mom and Brother only played slots during night the trip.
Overall Summary
The dealers were friendly and the entire staff was top notch as far as service levels go. There were tournament buy ins for Poker, Blackjack and Slots every night. General buy in was $20 and the top 6 played in a final. Winner received $300.
I liked the craps table the best. Great experience and the only table I consistently won on while playing. I did get lucky on the 3-card poker table on the last day and won $600 on a straight flush. But it took me $400 and 3 hours to get there.
I didn't like the shift in Princess policy to maximize house profit. In 2011 there were no shufflers and the odds were 3:2 and 6:5 on BJ. I felt that you want people leaving with a positive experience and I'd give an overall casino grade of C- for the ship.
Any questions ask away.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
LuckyPhow
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Any questions ask away.
Any questions ask away.
Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
AxelWolf
The slots were loose in the daytime and tight at night.
You dont really believe this do you? I guess its technically possible, especially if they have a central server. For the most part when people claim this type of BS it's total nonsense. I highly doubt the slot techs run around and change the slot settings. They probably have them all set fairly low to begin with and keep them that way. Quote: JoelDeze
Playing max produced empty pockets.
That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+. On bonus slots playing faster produced more bonuses.
of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour. Quote: JoelDeze
The bigger winning machines were actually located right in the front of the casino by the entrance.
Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the 'bigger winning machines'. You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.
Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolfThanks for this post from:
Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
Probably not since they needed time to change the slot payouts. (-;While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
GWAE
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Why would you do a put bet with only 2x odds? That is a terrible way to play.Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed. I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
CrystalMath
Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
I think the slots are open as much as possible, which starts about 2 hours after you depart. In my experience on Princess cruises, table games are shut down between about 2am to 10am. On my last cruise, I would go to the casino about 6am to 'play' Ultimate X.
I heart Crystal Math.
JoelDeze
Many thanx for the great trip report!
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
Slots open 24/7 on sea days or 30 min after departing an island.
Table games opened at 11 am and closed at 2 am or 3 am depending on the amount of action they were taking.
Casino is closed while docked.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
JoelDeze
You dont really believe this do you? I guess its technically possible, especially if they have a central server. For the most part when people claim this type of BS it's total nonsense. I highly doubt the slot techs run around and change the slot settings. They probably have them all set fairly low to begin with and keep them that way.
That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+.
of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour.
Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the 'bigger winning machines'.
You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.
Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....
That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+.
of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour.
Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the 'bigger winning machines'.
You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.
Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....
On your first question regarding loose/tight, I have absolutely no way of electronically confirming what I mentioned. Almost all of the info for slots was ascertained from just talking with a majority of the same people that played for hours and figuring out what times the won the most. It's not a super large casino and apparently there are a lot of casino goers that show up around the same spots. I simply asked them how they were doing and if they found things better in the daytime or nighttime. I also asked if they changed their style of play and what machines they liked the most.
You could easily walk around the entire casino in less than 90 seconds. Not a big casino.
On the bonus spins response, your answer is not correct. I could push a button 5 seconds after every spin for 2 hours and maybe get 1 - 2 bonuses show up. Speed racing over just 1 hour produced from 4 to 7 bonuses. Unfortunately, I never figured this out until the last day. I wish I could have tested it further. Maybe I would have had better luck with the machines I went to.
The winning machines in the front were max $1.25 betting machines. They seemed to win something on every spin or every other spin. I actually did well on one but I really hate slots so I don't play them often. I was mainly testing different machines for quirks.
Lastly, on the craps table, I spent 60% of my time in the casino on this one lone micro fiber table. I had a lot of short to medium rolls because the bounce was difficult. I didn't win anything big. I mentioned a $1,600 payout one night but ended up overall at a trifle of that amount. I wouldn't call that a big win at all.
In the end, between everything I did over the full 7 day cruise, I did not come out a winner. I win a lot more at Twin River and so far, Twin River and Foxwoods has produced more money for me combined than any of the other 8 casinos I've visited. The cruise ship wasn't the worst experience I have had but it wasn't even in the low tier of the best. Sure, the service was nice. I had an unlimited drink purchase for the week so I had a lot of fun trying out different drinks while playing, even though I didn't drink as much in the casino. The dealers and staff were exemplary and nice. There were very few grumblers on board.
The experience I loved the most was that when I play in Twin River I am surrounded by 70% Asians towed in from the surrounding area and on the ship, I didn't have that experience because there were so many different people from all different Countries. The conversations were interesting and so I found it more of a social affair.
In the end, I would 'NOT' recommend anyone playing in a casino on a cruise ship. If you want to play, go throw a max bet on the roulette wheel and shoot for black and cross your fingers. It will save you a lot of time and effort and then you can go about enjoying the rest of the cruise elsewhere.
“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
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With the passline increases allowed at anytime, I started with $5 and after the point was set determined increases. I found this very advantageous. 4 or 10 I'd leave the $5. 5 or 9 I'd increase to $10/$20. 6 or 8 I'd increase to $30/$60.
What am I reading here? When the point was set at 5, 6, 8, or 9 you'd put more money on the PASS LINE at 1:1 payout? That's giving the house free money. They have huge edges on those bets.
If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.
What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.
JoelDeze
What am I reading here? When the point was set at 5, 6, 8, or 9 you'd put more money on the PASS LINE at 1:1 payout? That's giving the house free money. They have huge edges on those bets.
If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.
What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.
If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.
What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.
They were capped at 2x on the odds. I normally play 5x or 10x tables at home.
I generally played 5 on the PL and 10 on the odds (2x capped). I then increased after the 3rd or 5th roll if no 7-out to 10/20 (5 and 9) OR (20/40 to 30/60 if a hot roller). It worked out well.
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The majority of money I lost had nothing to do with PL bets. It was when I didn't turn off or take down place bets when I became greedy.
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I like playing at home where I know the people and know which rollers shoot well and which ones don't.“It’s a dog eat dog world out there and I’m wearing milkbone underwear .” – Norm Peterson
thlf
This was taken out of Hurricane Mikey's trip report on a cruise ship. I thought it was an interesting srew job.
There was one table in particular that I thought was amazing--it had the best rules I've ever seen on a Blackjack table. It was an eight-deck shoe, but any 21 was an automatic winner, no waiting for the dealer to make a hand and maybe push--if you drew to a 21, you got paid instantly. And if you got a blackjack, a 5-card 21, a 6-7-8 21, or a 7-7-7 21, you got paid instantly at 3:2 (no waiting to see if the dealer got a blackjack, either). You could double after *any* card, not just the third one, double after splits, re-hit split Aces, and they offered late surrender. I couldn't believe it! It was like the most amazing set of player-friendly rules ever!
Then, three days into the cruise, I found out that there we no queens in the deck. WTF? Nope, they didn't have that posted anywhere on the table, nor where they offering up that info voluntarily. You had to ask. That's 32 fewer chances to get a blackjack, a HUGE advantage for the house, so I immediately colored up and quit playing as soon as I learned that. I just never noticed that there were no queens coming out. It turned out that all of their blackjack tables had some sort of god-awful Harrah-fied rules, so after that, I avoided the blackjack tables altogether.
There was one table in particular that I thought was amazing--it had the best rules I've ever seen on a Blackjack table. It was an eight-deck shoe, but any 21 was an automatic winner, no waiting for the dealer to make a hand and maybe push--if you drew to a 21, you got paid instantly. And if you got a blackjack, a 5-card 21, a 6-7-8 21, or a 7-7-7 21, you got paid instantly at 3:2 (no waiting to see if the dealer got a blackjack, either). You could double after *any* card, not just the third one, double after splits, re-hit split Aces, and they offered late surrender. I couldn't believe it! It was like the most amazing set of player-friendly rules ever!
Then, three days into the cruise, I found out that there we no queens in the deck. WTF? Nope, they didn't have that posted anywhere on the table, nor where they offering up that info voluntarily. You had to ask. That's 32 fewer chances to get a blackjack, a HUGE advantage for the house, so I immediately colored up and quit playing as soon as I learned that. I just never noticed that there were no queens coming out. It turned out that all of their blackjack tables had some sort of god-awful Harrah-fied rules, so after that, I avoided the blackjack tables altogether.
Wizard
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I agree, that is not right to not disclose the modified deck to the players. What would prevent them from removing a few aces as well? Administrator
I was deceived at first by the game Triple Action Hold Em at Binion's, which uses eights to aces only. Maybe the felt mentioned it somewhere, but I played several hands before I realized something was fishy, and the dealer confirmed my suspicion that there were only high cards in the deck.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Doc
I may have already posted this a long time ago, but I'm not sure.
I was on a cruise ship half a dozen years ago in which some players suspected incomplete decks of cards. The casino was not open 24 hours, and when it opened for players to enter, the cards were already shuffled (supposedly) and in the shoes, ready for the deal. We never got to see them spread on the table face up, as most of us were accustomed to seeing when a table was first opened. The dealers and supervisor claimed that the decks were standard and complete, and I had no well-based reason to doubt them, but a fair number of my fellow players thought that there was a distinct shortage of face cards. No, the casino was not willing to spread the cards for examination, even at the shuffle, claiming that it would delay play, or some such. I only played BJ when the crap table was not open for business. The dice certainly appeared to have the standard number of pips.
I was on a cruise ship half a dozen years ago in which some players suspected incomplete decks of cards. The casino was not open 24 hours, and when it opened for players to enter, the cards were already shuffled (supposedly) and in the shoes, ready for the deal. We never got to see them spread on the table face up, as most of us were accustomed to seeing when a table was first opened. The dealers and supervisor claimed that the decks were standard and complete, and I had no well-based reason to doubt them, but a fair number of my fellow players thought that there was a distinct shortage of face cards. No, the casino was not willing to spread the cards for examination, even at the shuffle, claiming that it would delay play, or some such. I only played BJ when the crap table was not open for business. The dice certainly appeared to have the standard number of pips.
benbakdoff
Foxwoods and MGM in Ct. buy the cards for their eight deck shoes pre-shuffled. When changing cards they are not in order when spread on the table.
mkl654321
That's 32 fewer chances to get a blackjack, a HUGE advantage for the house, so I immediately colored up and quit playing as soon as I learned that. I just never noticed that there were no queens coming out. It turned out that all of their blackjack tables had some sort of god-awful Harrah-fied rules, so after that, I avoided the blackjack tables altogether.
I suppose fraud is not a crime on the high seas. This would certainly be both fraud and cheating if it happened on dry land.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
FleaStiff
No, the casino was not willing to spread the cards for examination, even at the shuffle, claiming that it would delay play, or some such.
Heck no! I'd never play that way. I've been on Day Boats wherein the shuffling is done in domestic waters but the gambling doesn't start until the boat is in international waters. Sure they don't allow curious passengers to mill around when they are filling the table's banks, but during the shuffle of multiple decks into a shoe anyone with a mind to can watch. It does not in any way delay play to demonstrate the casino's honesty!